(Long pause. Exhales.) —The thing—the thing was, I didn't actually realise music was sort of anything that unusual for, for most people. It, it—I thought it grew. Like trees. I knew people wrote pop songs and stuff, like songs on the radio, bands on the radio, on TV and stuff, that—and they had an act, and they would, like, they'd get a song together, and—But—a lot of, a lot of the more involved music, like Mozart or, or Charlie Parker, or—just the music that seemed to go into every crevice—I, I assumed that grew. It seemed to be too perfect to—Too naturally right to have been made up. And—I still believe that. That, that notion hasn't left me.